Hey y'all just a quick heads up the episode you're about to listen to is 8 to 10 years old

now these episodes were intended to be evergreen and I still believe there's a lot of good information in these early episodes, but I do want to let you know that some of my ideas have evolved over time.

Times have changed since we made these episodes and ultimately I'd like to think I've grown

a lot as an artist and a human and that these don't necessarily represent my best work or the best of the podcast.

If you're new around here, I suggest starting with the most recent episode or at least go back to around 300 and move forward from there.

Enjoy the podcast. This show is about Creative Pep Talk, the Podcast.

This show is about making money and making great art.

It's the mixture of these things on that spectrum of business to art were right smack dab in the

middle we're talking about thriving financially but then also being creatively

fulfilled exploring is that even possible and sharing what we're learning

about that. So today I want to talk to you about a topic that I'm pretty excited about.

The episode is discipline, okay?

Discipline, I'm sure I could call it a few different things like commitment or I don't know but that word kind of scares me but I

think it accurately defines what has kept me going we could also call it slow and steady. I might call it slow and

steady. That might be that might be the tune. I wanted to round out this

conversation about hustling, about, you know, 14 hour days glued to your desk, that whole,

you know that you have to be a certain type of person, that kind of type A mentality to succeed as a creative

person, which that is kind of really, I think it really aggravates me because of course

type A people are successful in a capitalist society.

Like, if you're a type A person, maybe go ahead and go over and be a CEO, be one of the next

CEOs of tomorrow.

But, you know, I'm not actually saying you can't do art,

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