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The Futur with Chris Do

064 - Don’t Call it a Side Hustle — with Austin Kleon (Pt. 1)

The Futur with Chris Do

The Futur

Arts, Education, Marketing, Design, Business, Self-improvement

4.9998 Ratings

🗓️ 25 October 2019

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Chris Do talks with acclaimed author, Austin Kleon. They discuss two of his most interesting and popular books—Steal Like An Artist and Show Your Work. This conversation is so jam packed with stories and opinions on what it means to be creative that we broke it up into two parts. In part one, Austin and Chris discuss his background, what changed the game for him, and why he hates the term “side hustle.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Isn't everyone tired of hustling? Like I just I'm just I'm just sort do you know.

0:13.0

And the new. And the Hello and I'm

0:29.0

welcome to the future podcast. I am your host Chris Doe and I'm

0:35.0

Welcome to the future podcast. I am your host Chris Doe and I'm joined by my lovely producer

0:36.8

Greg Gunn. Hey Greg! Hey Chris, I did not know you thought I was lovely.

0:40.9

Yes you are. That is a delightful thing to say. Thank you. I'm glad to have your help on this. Of course. So what's going on with this episode? Well funny you should ask. In this episode I talked to acclaimed author Austin Cleon about a couple of his books that I absolutely love,

0:55.8

steal like an artist and show your work. Our conversation was so meaty that we're breaking this into two

1:01.7

parts so that you can enjoy as much of

1:04.3

Austin as we did. In this first part Austin and I discuss his background, what

1:09.8

changed the game for him and why he hates the term side hustle.

1:13.8

Hmm.

1:14.8

Wait, what, what's wrong with the term side hustle?

1:17.4

Do we not use that anymore?

1:18.8

Well, you're going to have to tune in to find out, Greg.

1:20.6

Okay. All right.

1:21.6

So you ready to do this? I am, let's do this. Without further

1:24.9

ado, please enjoy this conversation with Austin Cleon. My name's Austin Cleon and I'm a writer who

1:32.1

draws. I make books with pictures and art with words.

1:37.0

Okay first I'm reading in here off your site it says positively one of the most interesting people on the internet from the Atlantic that's high praise.

1:47.0

That's pretty awesome. And there's this other one here from the business inside of Cleon isn't a prototypical business guru.

1:53.9

He's an artist who has some fantastic insights

1:56.2

about creativity.

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