054 – Mobile Phones in the Therapy Room – Separation Individuation Theory
Counselling Tutor podcast
Kenneth Kelly
4.8 • 657 Ratings
🗓️ 13 October 2017
⏱️ 32 minutes
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In episode 54 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, Ken and Rory discuss how to deal with clients who check their mobile phones during therapy sessions. 'Theory with Rory' explains Margaret Mahler's separation individuation theory. Finally, the presenters discuss clients who come to therapy reluctantly – for example when they are sent by someone else, or when an initial enquiry about therapy services comes from a friend or relative of the potential client.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Counseling Tutor Podcast. |
| 0:04.4 | The must listen to podcast for students of counselling and psychotherapy. |
| 0:10.6 | Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oaks and Ken Kelly. |
| 0:15.7 | Hello and welcome to the counselling tutor podcast with me, Rory Lee's Oaks. |
| 0:20.1 | And with me today is Master Craftsman. Mr Ken Kelly, how you doing, Ken? Oh, I like that. I'm very well, thank you very much for asking Rory. Master Craftsman. Tell me more. How am I a master craftsman? Well, it's really interesting. In a world of equality, which of course we should have. There is a well-known |
| 0:38.1 | phrase and I actually think I found it on the BACP website and it's a phase of journeys that |
| 0:44.4 | therapists go through and it starts off with apprentice journeyman and mastercraft and it signifies |
| 0:51.0 | the movement from being maybe a student, qualifying, maybe then maturing and building |
| 0:58.8 | your practice until you become a master craftsperson until you become really competent at the |
| 1:03.9 | work. So it's a term of endearment for you can, master craftsman. I do like it. Thank you very much. |
| 1:10.7 | I'm going to accept that |
| 1:11.7 | graciously and and it just leads me to think you know that the counseling the study of counseling |
| 1:17.6 | there's two parts to that the one is the theory and the knowledge but there is definitely an |
| 1:22.2 | apprenticeship level to it where we need to go out and be in placement and it's very experiential so that fits very |
| 1:28.6 | nicely and a great uh episode today no matter what level you may at from that be an apprentice |
| 1:35.8 | right up to a master craftsman like yourself rory we got a really good information packed episode |
| 1:41.7 | we're going to be starting off discussing distractions in the |
| 1:46.0 | therapy room, something that came in through Facebook, and we'll be telling you more about that in a |
| 1:50.3 | moment. Really interesting question that's come in. Theory with Rory is a really interesting one today, |
| 1:56.3 | because you're going to be speaking about separation individualization therapy. Rory, I don't know how you do this. |
| 2:02.8 | You bring all of this knowledge. I can't even pronounce them. Give us a bit of a flavor. |
| 2:07.3 | Yes. It's the work of Margaret Mailer. So there's a joy in itself, a female voice in the world of |
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