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Today in Parliament

05/12/2025

Today in Parliament

BBC

Government

4.4162 Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Alicia McCarthy reports from Westminster as peers debate the age at which someone could ask for an assisted death in England and Wales.

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts.

0:06.1

Order. Order.

0:08.7

Hello there, I'm Alicia McCarthy,

0:10.6

and this is today in Parliament from BBC Radio 4 for Friday the 5th of December,

0:15.7

where a peer calls for a proposed new law on assisted dying

0:18.9

to only apply to people over 25.

0:22.0

Lady Berger argues 18 is just too young.

0:25.3

It's not only an arbitrary starting point,

0:27.8

but it is also contrary to the mounting evidence of when the brain is fully formed.

0:32.2

But other peers reckon that would mean telling youngsters with families and careers...

0:37.0

You cannot be helped in your last few days or months, weeks possibly, because you're only 24.

0:43.9

Also on this programme, high hopes for a treaty to conserve marine life in the high seas.

0:50.1

And the heartbreak caused by thugs firing catapults at wild birds and swans.

0:55.9

When one of these animals is just needlessly murdered, it's absolutely devastating.

1:02.2

But first, a labour peer has said the age at which it should be possible for a terminally ill person to ask for help to die

1:08.7

should be 25 and not 18. Lady Berger was putting forward the

1:13.6

proposed change to the assisted dying bill as it continued to be discussed in detail in the Lords.

1:19.8

The legislation, as it was originally written, would allow someone in England and Wales aged 18

1:25.0

or over with six months or less to live, the right to ask to end their

1:29.2

life. Peers have put forward more than a thousand amendments to the termly ill adults' end-of-life

1:35.5

bill, but so far only a handful have been discussed. At the start of the day, the government's

1:41.1

business manager, Lord Kennedy, made an appeal to peers.

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