Welcome to Under the Skin with me, Russell Brand, in which I ask what's beneath the surface

of people with my, of the ideas that define our time, of the history we are told. Under

the skin is sponsored by my book Recovery, which is available now, you can order it on

Amazon. Why don't you then? You can, go on. You can also get the audio book on Audible.

It's a bloody good book, you'll enjoy it. Now it's time for Under the Skin.

My guests on Under the Skin today are here on, and Hena Gracie Brothers, and part of

Drew Jitsu's most illustrious family. As sons, the Hori on Gracie, known worldwide for creating

the UFC as a way to bring his family's Drew Jitsu style to the attention of America's

masses, Kiran and Henaer have continued to perpetuate their father's legacy while carving

out their own name in the Drew Jitsu family tree. This includes taking BJJ into the technological

age by founding the online Gracie University, the first interactive distance learning centre

for Brazilian Drew Jitsu, boasting more than 100,000 students in over 196 countries.

The hugely popular online show, The Gracie Breakdown, has also seen them amassed large numbers

of viewers for their mixed martial arts commentaries. Welcome to Under the Skin,

here on, and Hena. Welcome to our house, man. Because here we are in your home stadium

in Torrance. I'm very grateful for being here. I've like, so the people at home know, I've

been training mostly with Hiran for just one week for five hour long sessions. And the thing

that fascinates me most about Brazilian Drew Jitsu, people that are fans of martial arts will be

aware of its efficacy, of its power, people that know your family and your online work will know

that there is a sort of a peculiar component to what you do as a martial art, which I've been

particularly struck by, a kind of openness and a kind of warmth and a kind of love. There was

something about it that surprises me a great deal. To start this conversation, could you explain

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