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Oh, wow. This is Joe Wong. Welcome to the Trapset, where each week we explore the lives of drummers.

I want to play something for you.

I want to play something for you. You're hearing Kill Your Idols by Sondi.

You're hearing Kill Your Idols by Sonic Youth, featuring my guest Bob Burt on drums.

The son of Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback, Angelo Bertelli, Bob developed an early interest in the visual arts and trained as a screen printer, eventually working for a studio that printed Andy Warhol's work.

A largely self-taught drummer, Bert developed a unique approach that was heavily informed by his background in the New York City art community.

Bert left Sonic Youth in 1985, not long before the band achieved mainstream success,

but he continued to tour and perform with bands like Pussy Galore and the Chrome Cranks.

He also published the much lauded magazine, Bebe Gun, with his late wife, Linda Wolfe.

Currently, Bob has renewed his interest in the visual arts

and he's playing drums in Lydia Lunch's band RetroVirus.

And now our interview with Bob Burt.

I was always into music and I was always going to see bands.

I discovered CBGBs in 1975 and I was going there four times a week seeing all the bands.

I saw so many amazing shows and I was still going to see bigger concerts and stuff.

And I never even, the thought of being a musician was never a thought in my mind.

And then in 1979, I was in a, I saw a little ad in the village voice that said punk rock art wanted so I

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