You know, and I was like, God, I'm so exhausted. I don't think I've prayed a succinct prayer for two weeks.

This was like in the middle of all the heart in motion stuff. And she said, oh, Amy, it just takes one good prayer a day.

I'm J.J. Heller. And I'm Dave Heller. And this is instrumental.

In every episode, we explore the instrumental moments that made our guest who they are today.

We hope our conversation reminds you that every second matters because none of us knows which moment will be the one that changes everything.

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Hey, it's JJ.

And Dave.

And I'm super excited.

You guys will not believe who is on the podcast today.

Or maybe you will believe it because you've already seen it in the podcast description.

But I'll tell you anyway.

You ready?

I already know. Well, I thought we could say it together. Oh. One, two, three, Amy Grant. What a fun conversation we had with the one and only

Amy Grant. Wow. There are few people in the Nashville Christian music industry more influential.

It's hard to speak to a musician here who doesn't reference being influenced by Amy Grant.

That's so true. And even on a personal level, I grew up every single Christmas listening to Amy Grant on the record player.

Oh, man. My family, too. We had her CD in the CD player every Christmas. It was on rotation.

Her music is synonymous with the holidays for my family.

Mm-hmm. And then I remember spending the night at my friend's house.

Your best friend, Janelle?

My best friend, Janelle, who I mentioned in my song, A Mother Like You,

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