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FBI Case File Review

046: Joe Pistone - Infiltrating the Mafia, Being Donnie Brasco

FBI Case File Review

Jerri Williams

True Crime, Government

4.72.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2016

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Retired agent Joe Pistone is primarily known worldwide for the six years he spent infiltrating one of the New York mafia families as Donnie Brasco, his undercover alter ego. He reviews his undercover assignment, a mission so secret only a handful of agents knew what he was doing and where he was as he secretly gathered vital intelligence on the mafia and its criminal ways. The work Joe Pistone did was so incredibly dangerous that it has been documented in numerous books, documentaries, television shows, and the 1997 feature film Donnie Brasco, starring Johnny Depp and Al Pacino. After the undercover case was closed, Joe spent the rest of his Bureau career testifying in federal court all around the country for mob related trials and at the FBI Academy helping to establish the FBI's undercover program and training courses. Joe continues to travel overseas, lecturing and training law enforcement officers on how to "go undercover."

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to episode 46 of FBI Retired Case File Review with Jerry Williams.

0:09.6

I'm a retired agent writing crime fiction inspired by actual FBI cases.

0:15.0

In this episode we get to speak to retired agent Joe Pestone.

0:20.0

Now Joe served in the FBI for nearly 27 years, however he is primarily known worldwide

0:28.0

for the six years he spent infiltrating one of the New York mafia families as Donnie Brasko his undercover alter ego.

0:37.6

This was a mission so secret only a handful of agents in the FBI knew what Joe Pistone was doing and where he was as he secretly gathered vital intelligence on the mafia and its criminal ways.

0:52.0

The work Joe Pistone did was so on the mafia and its criminal ways.

0:53.0

The work Joe Pistone did was so incredibly dangerous

0:57.1

that it has been documented in numerous books,

1:00.5

documentaries, television shows, and the 1997 feature film, Donnie Brasko, starring Johnny

1:08.7

Depp and Al Pacino.

1:11.9

Once the undercover assignment was closed down, Joe spent the remainder of his

1:16.4

Bureau career testifying in federal court all over the country for mobrelated trials and at the FBI Academy helping to establish

1:26.3

the FBI's undercover program and training courses. Joe continues to this day to

1:32.4

travel overseas lecturing and training law enforcement officers how to go undercover.

1:39.0

I want to thank my FBI classmate John Legata, episode 21, for connecting me with Joe Pistone.

1:48.9

I emailed John and I said, do you think Joe, who he worked with undercover for a number of years would do the

1:55.3

podcast and he emailed me back he said Joe said yes he's going to give you a call and Joe called

2:01.8

he was gracious he was, we spoke for over an hour, and I am just

2:07.6

thrilled. I could die right now and go to podcaster Heaven based on this interview.

2:15.0

The only other interview that I aspire to after this is interviewing former FBI director Louis Free. So I'll keep working on that one too.

2:27.0

Joe Pustone is an FBI legend and the fact that he was willing to take time out of his day to do this interview is absolutely

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