045 • Kate Bowler
Instrumental with Dave & JJ Heller
JJ Heller
5.0 • 532 Ratings
🗓️ 30 September 2021
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Kate Bowler, PhD is a New York Times bestselling author, podcast host, and a professor at Duke University. I stumbled across her Instagram feed several months ago, and I found so much comfort in the words she shares about suffering. At age 35, she was unexpectedly diagnosed with Stage IV cancer, causing her to think in different terms about the research and beliefs she had been studying. I hope her perspective will bless you as much as it's blessed me.
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| 0:00.0 | There will be no finishing this, because if you're doing it right, there will never be enough. |
| 0:07.6 | You will never have enough love. |
| 0:09.2 | You will never not want to love the people you've been given. |
| 0:12.3 | And in fact, the more you love them, the more completely painful it will be to lose them. |
| 0:16.6 | I'm JJ Heller. |
| 0:17.9 | And I'm Dave Heller. |
| 0:19.0 | And this is Instrumental. |
| 0:21.5 | In every episode, we explore the instrumental moments that made our guest who they are today. |
| 0:27.8 | We hope our conversation reminds you that every second matters, because none of us knows which moment will be the one that changes everything. |
| 0:38.0 | Big love happens in the small moments. |
| 0:45.0 | Hi, friends. |
| 0:46.5 | Hi, enemies. |
| 0:48.0 | No, you don't have enemies. |
| 0:50.2 | You don't know who's listening. |
| 0:53.4 | Okay, I suppose that's listening. Okay. |
| 0:55.5 | I suppose that's true. |
| 1:00.4 | There could be people out there plotting to destroy you. |
| 1:02.3 | I made this podcast for them. |
| 1:03.2 | For your enemies? |
| 1:05.0 | It's for everyone. |
| 1:06.6 | Enemies and friends included. Oh, wow. |
| 1:07.4 | Okay. |
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