Hello, Wineabbers. My name is Jesse Meekham and this is podcast number 40 for you need a

budget where we teach you four rules to help you stop living paycheck to paycheck, get out of debt, and save

more money.

Today, we're going to have a little success story.

We're going to find out how a motivational speaker was motivated to change his financial picture forever,

and he's actually started to use Wienab in a very different way, applying the financial principles to his time. So without further

ado here is my conversation with Joe. Well I've got Joe Beckman here from

Minneapolis and we are glad to have him on the podcast today

thanks Joe for being on absolutely

uh... joe i've got some prepared questions for you but you're

welcome to uh... you know

let me know if there's anything else you want to share or ask or whatever so

my first question that i wanted to ask you was how you found why now

what kind of the drive was behind that?

Yeah, so I would say, no, like,

where I physically found you was I looked into just budgeting software, I googled it and

uh... Wine Lab came up and I just did some uh... I looked at some of the videos and

read some of the reviews and I decided to give it a shot

uh... but mentally where and I decided to give it a shot. But mentally, where we were at before purchasing

the software, was that we, we, I would say that we considered ourselves my wife and I when I say

we pretty sound with our money when it came to making decisions we don't have a

ton of debt we try to use our money wisely, no credit card expenses, things like that.

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