Welcome to the Counseling Tutor Podcast, the must listen to podcast for students of counselling and psychotherapy.

Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oaks and Ken Kelly.

Hello and welcome to episode 35 of the counselling tutor podcast with me, Rory Lee'sOaks. And with me is a man who is always in my frame of reference. And hopefully I'm in his, Mr. Ken Kelly. How are you, Ken? I am very well, Rorya. You are. You are always in my frame of reference. And thank you. I think that is such a kind thing to say to someone. Thank you. I appreciate that. I'm going to hold

that and own it today. What a great day just before we came on to do the recording. We were just

having a look and seeing how's the podcast doing? 62 five-star reviews on iTunes. We're just so

grateful. We're overwhelmed by your generosity and kindness to

take your time and just go and leave those reviews. Thank you so much. Over 100,000 downloads

worldwide of the counseling tutor podcast in just 34 episodes. We're blown away. Thank you to all of you. Yes. Thank you very much. We're really

grateful and we're really grateful about the feedback we get when we publish them on the social

media feeds, our Facebook feed. And if you want to join our Facebook feed, if you just type in

Facebook, counseling tutor, you'll find us. We're a closed group, but no problem, just knock on the door,

press, knock, knock, and we'll let you in. And you can join over 4,000 like-minded people

who are studying or have a passion of the world of counseling and psychotherapy. Yeah. So I guess if we're,

we need to keep doing what we're doing, Rory, and deliver value. And today is

no exception. Great episode for episode 34. We're going to be kicking off with speaking about

equality and diversity. It's something that comes around again and again in counseling.

However, we're going to turn it on its head. So more about that in a second. It's not just

going to be the old equality and diversity debate. We're going to take a different angle on that.

Theory with Rory today, we're starting to drill down. So we know about the necessary and

conditioned. What am I talking about? Sufficient. Necessary and sufficient conditions

of Carl Rogers in person-centered therapy. But I think it's time that we

really drill deep into each one individually. And today, Rory, you're going to be speaking about

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