Hello everyone and welcome to the newest episode of the Jeff Macolino podcast. Thank you for joining me.

Today I have what I consider a very fun one. I'll give a trailer warning to people who like to live in their echo chambers that if you get easily offended by people believing

things differently than you, you might not like this. I would say it's not political though. It is, well it's a lot. It's about aliens and reptilians and a lot. There's a lot here to unpack.

I'm obviously and I told Stefan the guest after we did have had our conversation I told him that I didn't really buy into most of what he said but nonetheless it's interesting. It's fascinating to hear him talk through what he believes is true.

I think there's some interesting conversation to be had and I think this episode plays really well with the episode a prior episode of my podcast with Tony Russo.

Tony Russo wrote a book about people who believed in reptilians and all that kind of stuff. I don't think it's quite the same belief that Stefan has. The group that Tony wrote about. However, I could be wrong about that.

But either way I think listening to Tony, my conversation with Tony Russo maybe after this episode might be an interesting experience to hear them back to back.

I'll say it's okay to step outside your comfort zone and listen to someone who he several times in the interview says I know this sounds crazy. I know you probably think I'm insane.

So you might think that and it's not my place to judge and one of the things I really wanted when I started this podcast was to get conspiracy theory type stuff and I don't say that word disparagingly whatsoever.

It's thrown around disparagingly but I think the root of a lot of conspiracies there is truth. I think a lot of times where that road leads is where people go stray.

So I'm still looking to debate a flat earth or as to the obvious I guess. But again, I would suppose that there is some sort of root belief or action that caused them to travel down the road where they have that belief. I would guess. I don't know. I find this all fun. I find it all amusing. I find it all humorous.

And I do like talking to people who have different opinions. So I give you a wrap up after the episode.

Hope you enjoy it. And let me know if you give it a listen. Let me know what you think of this was the first episode I recorded through my new computer. So trying to testing the audio of it.

If you if you have any thoughts, good, bad or otherwise about the audio, not of this, but of the, you know, the actual interview conversation with Stefan, hit me up and let me know.

All right. And now I welcome Stefan Convalius to the Jeff MacColino podcast. How are you today?

Good brother. Thanks Jeff.

Thanks for joining me. I read up on you a little bit in your bio. And there's a ton of things, some of which I have no clue about.

I'll be honest. I was tempted. I'm like, I should dig deep in research. And I'm like, well, that won't do much service to my listeners. If I do too much research into it, because then we'll be talking. I'll be talking maybe at a higher level than they'll understand.

I hear you. Try to. I'll try to keep it as a basic, but things might get might get deeper because I did read a little bit into some of these things.

I hear you. But let's start talking about you. So first thing that jumped out at me is the two near death experiences.

Yes.

What can you tell me about those?

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