Hello, Wineabbers, my name is Jesse Meekham, and this is podcast number 30 for you

need a budget where we teach you four rules to help you stop leaving paycheck to

paycheck, get out of debt and save more money.

And today I'm going to report a little bit from what I discovered at Finovate in San Francisco.

I was there Monday through Wednesday I think and last week and

Finovate is where new companies show their innovations in finance. It was my first time going.

It'd be kind of cool if Wienab presented there at some point, but I think we might bore everybody

to death and we told them that we aren't huge fans of automating everything. We like you to have to

enter things and be a little more in touch with your finances, which from my

impressions was exactly the opposite of what a lot of the companies, mainly the banks, want you to do.

Banks are nice. Credit unions are maybe even nicer.

But it's a situation where you just have to be aware of the fact that they do want your money and they'll get it any way they can.

So I've been banking with the same bank for, I don't know, 15 years or something and I don't have any you know any

intent to switch or anything but it's interesting to see new products coming

out that are all dialed into the idea of having you borrow more, spend more, jump on

quote unquote deals more, and things like that. Few examples. I won't say the companies by

name. I don't want to look like I'm I'm slamming any

innovators or anything like that. I mean there in that space where you're trying to

squeeze profits it is innovation and it's good innovation in that it's going to make more

money for you know for your market where you're

selling so I'm okay with that I just want you to be aware as the consumer you have

the ultimate power because you get to choose what you do with your money. So first one there was a company that as part of their

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