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🗓️ 27 March 2017
⏱️ 30 minutes
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This is the first in a series of podcasts that will feature live therapy. As you listen, you’ll have the opportunity to peak behind closed doors to see how TEAM-CBT actually works in a real-world setting, and not role playing.
The patient is a physician named Mark who has been haunted for decades by a problem with his oldest son, and he feels like a failure as a father. Although the facts of your life are likely to be very different, you might understand what it’s like to feel like a failure, or to tell yourself that you’re defective, or simply not good enough.
The two co-therapists include David and his highly-esteemed colleague, Dr. Jill Levitt. We have broken the session down into a number of podcasts that will include excerpts from the session along with commentaries on the thought patterns of these two master therapists as the session unfolds.
Part 1—T = Testing
As the session begins, David and Jill review of Mark’s scores on the Brief Mood Survey (BMS), which he completed just before the session began. The scores indicate that Mark is only feeling mildly depressed, anxious, and angry, but is extremely dissatisfied with his relationship with his son.
Click here to view Mark's initial Brief Mood Survey.
At the end of the session, David and Jill will ask Mark to complete the BMS again. By comparing his patient’s scores at the start and end of the session, they will be able to see exactly how effective, or ineffective, the session was. Mark will also rate David and Jill on Empathy, Helpfulness, and several other important dimensions.
Testing at the start and end of every therapy session is one of the new and unique components of TEAM therapy. The testing can revolutionize psychotherapy, because therapists can fine-tune their therapeutic strategies based on the scores, and make critical important changes if the session was not particularly helpful. However, the assessment instruments are extremely sensitive and pick up the smallest therapeutic errors. This can be quite threatening to therapists who don’t want to be held accountable.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast. |
0:12.4 | I am your host, Fabrice Knight. |
0:14.7 | And joining me here in the Murrieta Studios is Dr. David Burns. |
0:19.0 | Hi, David. |
0:20.0 | Hi, Fabrice. |
0:23.8 | Dr. David Burns has been a pioneer in the development of cognitive therapy, and he is the creator of the new team therapy. He is the author of |
0:30.2 | Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States, and has been translated into |
0:35.5 | over 20 languages. He is an emeritus adjunct clinical professor of psychiatry at the Stanford University School |
0:43.0 | of Medicine. |
0:44.9 | Now, today, this is episode 29, and we have something a little bit new in our podcast. |
0:58.0 | We have recorded a live session with a client, |
1:05.2 | and David Yew will talk a little bit about him in a moment. And we are going to spend the next several episodes doling out that session in segments. |
1:16.7 | And we're going to comment on each of those segments to kind of explain what went on. |
1:22.2 | And I think that will give people a better sense of how to conduct a session, right? |
1:23.8 | Yeah, absolutely. |
1:32.0 | And this session was conducted not just with you, David, but we had a very, very good therapist with you, Jill Levitt, who really brought a lot of richness to the session and a little |
1:40.9 | bit of a feminine touch, which I think was nice. |
1:43.2 | Absolutely. |
1:44.8 | So I think that people are really going to enjoy this. |
1:49.1 | And so I don't know exactly how many episodes we'll have on this, |
1:53.5 | but just enough to break down the session. |
1:56.0 | So today we're going to listen to the testing part of the session, |
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