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Before we start the podcast today, we just wanted to let you know that today's episode will be part one of a two-part series entitled Seven Pillars of Freedom.

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Hey there, I'm your host, Trevor Windsor, and we're so thankful you're taking time out of your day to hang out with us.

I'm here with my co-host as always, Nick Stumbo.

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And joining us today are Rich Moore and Brian Roberts.

Thanks for being with us, guys.

Glad to be here. It's good to be here. Good to have you guys.

We are excited to have you guys here because today we're going to talk about the seven pillars of freedoms groups and the materials that we have to go with those groups.

So seven pillars is one of the groups we have for men. And it's our group specifically for men who are struggling with sexual addiction,

and all four of us in this room right now have been through this material. So we're just hoping

to bring really just some information if you've never heard of it before, and then also maybe

fill it out a little bit more for guys who have been in this group before. So let's just get

going. All righty. So let's start with this. Rich, let me ask you,

you are the international men's groups coordinator. So you get calls all the time from guys

looking for material to get healthy. So the question to start is what exactly is seven

pillars of freedom and where to come from? Yeah, the seven pillars of freedom in a nutshell,

it's going to help men break, break denial, brings an understanding of sexual addiction, limits of damage and behavior, and it brings sobriety.

As far as when it started, I believe it was 2008, right around there, when Seven Pillars came out.

Dr. Ted developed the pillars, informed, and led a group of us called the Farm Club.

The Farm Club. That's a good name. Yeah, so we were basically like the guinea pigs walking through the new material and nobody wanted to sit directly next to Ted or across from Ted.

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