If you're in traffic right now, look around. You'll see empty car seats. Nobody loves sitting in traffic. We don't. And neither do ESSO. Every filled passenger seat in this jam could mean one less car on the road. And ESO want to help with that. Carpooling could mean less traffic. Split fuel bills. And new friends. Oh, we're friends. I added you on social media. We don't have social media. We're bobbleheads. No, I've got social media.

More journeys made together. And new friends. Oh, we're friends. Oh, how did you on social media? We don't have social media.

We're bobbleheads.

Oh, I've got social media.

More journeys made together.

That's thoughtful driving.

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Welcome to Wheels Off, a show about the messy reality of the creative life.

I'm Rhett Miller.

That's when they got wheels off. Shot it up and we anchors. of the creative life. I'm Rhett Miller. Ben Acker is my guest on this episode of.

He is a fantastic writer who, along with his writing got wheels off.

Ben Acker, who, along with his writing partner, is my guest on this episode of Wheels Off.

He is a fantastic writer who, along with his writing partner, Ben Blacker,

created the Thrilling Adventure Hour,

which is a stage show and podcast done in the style of old time radio.

It's simultaneously incredibly current, but very classic and old-timey.

It traffics in tropes, but subverts them in a way that makes it always surprising and always funny.

Ben Acker is both of those things in real life.

Surprising and funny.

He is one of my favorite people in the world,

and full disclosure is that the conversation you're about to hear us have as part of Wheels Off is pretty much the conversation he and I have had for years.

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