You are listening to episode 25 of the Sustainable Minimalists podcast.

You are listening to the Sustainable Minimalists Podcast, a show about living simply and

sustainably with your family. Here's your host, Stephanie Safarian.

Hello there and thank you for joining me. Today we are talking about two ginormous topics.

We're talking first about the pressures we may or may not feel

with regard to fulfilling others expectations and quote keeping up with the

Joneses that is to say being part of the rat race so as to compete with everyone else

now keeping up with the Joneses often comes up with regard

to purchasing bigger, newer, flashier stuff, right? The new car, a summer home. All these things we are told we need by

our peers and in the case of today's guests, perhaps even your parents.

So today my guest and I explore exactly what it's like,

the real nitty gritty behind consciously and thoughtfully exiting that rat race.

We're also talking today about minimalism as it applies to finances.

Now I know I've said before and you'll hear me say again on

today's episode that I define minimalism as removing anything in life that doesn't serve you.

My guest today, along with her husband,

successfully removed financial obstacles

so that they could live a life that's in line

with their values, not the Jones's values.

When it comes to money, the big problem is that there never seems to be enough, right? Finances are often the single thing

holding people back from living their best lives.

And today's guest has some solid wisdom

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