So you see, you see this as, and I'll just use the word repentance.

In your mind, just as people need to repent and ask forgiveness and the basic Sunday

school 10 step program for repentance, you think that maybe institutionally, spirit

virtually, maybe a church needs to go through those steps as well?

Absolutely.

Talk about that for a second.

I don't mean churches are held, or should be exempt from that.

Churches are reflections of people's interests, people's beliefs and people's values,

people's morals, and they should be held to the same standard.

If we're requiring individuals to repent for the sins that they commit, we should also hold our institutions accountable.

That's called democracy. That's what we call that typically.

It's kind of a, it's kind of like a, a Christianized, democratic way of looking at it.

But certainly, I think that we should hold our institutions accountable for the things they do wrong.

And for instance, an example, what about, what about polygamy?

The whole polygamy demo, 1890 polygamy was overturned in the manifesto, right?

And did polygamy harm women? Well, we don't know. I mean, maybe it did.

I mean, I don't hear women complaining about it, but certainly there's something probably out there who are complaining about it,

but their voices aren't being heard.

But let's say, for instance, that women in which is outspoken about polygamy as, you know, people of color seem to be about the priesthood issue.

The church should have, the church should take responsibility for that.

So, you know, that was, that was the wrong thing to do.

So, I'm using that as an example.

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