Just to tie back to the history real quick, I will say that, you know, there is one quote

that's often mentioned about Brisson-McConkey after the revelation came out where he was speaking

to some CES folk, is that right?

Right.

I don't, but basically what he says is that he spoke with limited light knowledge at the time.

When he wrote that, he spoke with limited light knowledge.

He just didn't understand that the scriptures were, I mean, that God's work is continuous, continuous, and ever changing.

And the things he said, you know, essentially shit, shit, shit, reflect that whole paradigm.

So I think, I mean, to Brisson-McConkey's credit, okay, I'll give him credit,

that at least he had the will with all the say to say that, right?

And you have to.

Yeah, and there was, and just to capstone that, and I don't want you to think that I'm saying that this excuses it or is anyway adequate.

But I do, just for the record, I don't want, you know, I want people to make sure that's known, that, and I think even part of the quote said,

everything that anyone's ever said on this issue before 1978 is wrong.

That's right.

So we basically overturned what Brisson-McConkey said, what Joseph said.

But there's a problem with that, yeah.

Oh no, I know, I just wanted to get that on the record, yeah.

Oh yeah, yeah, and I'm sure that's important for your listeners to know, but there is a problem with that.

Oh yeah, so before you tell us what I want to do, let's loop back now to your story.

Take us, take us through sort of how you went from a missionary who just started to think hard about these issues.

Just through, you know, your employment at BYU and when she started thinking about writing the book, et cetera.

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