Something you learn from Rogan, you said, was that something valuable is often difficult to achieve,

but just because it is difficult does not mean that it is valuable or worthwhile.

This I called Rogan's value difficulty conflation. For instance, Joe said,

like, look at the car he's driving, look at the watch he's wearing, look at the girl he's with.

People would look at those things and think, wow, those are difficult to get, but they're not

necessarily valuable. Just because something is hard for you to achieve doesn't mean that it's

something that you should desire. Things that are truly valuable are the ones that are aligned

with you. What do you want to want? They're the things that you want to want. You need to make

sure that the reason that you're doing something is because you actually value it, not simply because

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you, and let's dive into the show. Okay, today on the podcast, we have Chris Williamson,

and my first question to jump right into it. You've gone from model,

party boy, club motor, rowdy TV to a top podcast host, having some of the deepest conversations

with the most successful people. How? Yeah, it's not the normal trajectory. I don't guess.

I think for a long time, I was very curious, and throughout my 20s, I was this big name on

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