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I've dream that you were twisting

through seven suns of gold

and the gypsy was insisting

their story must be told

I came two in the morning

but I took it as a one that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hello, and welcome to the Soberful podcast, Episode 2.

I'm Veronica Valley.

And I'm Chip Summers.

And this is where we discuss anything to do with

recovery, addiction, alcoholism, sober life, all that kind of stuff. And we have decided today that we

want to talk about relationships because it's a pretty big subject. What do you think, Chip?

I think relationships are

absolutely the biggest problem that we're ever going to encounter in recovery and they should be

avoided at all costs and we should listen to the advice of all the gurus in recovery and never go near

anybody attractive or in any way pleasing to us for the

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