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Hello and welcome to our national conversation about conversations about race. This is that

bi-weekly multiracial podcast where we

discuss the ways we can't talk. We don't talk. We would rather not talk, but intermittently,

fitfully, embarrassingly do talk about culture, identity, politics, power, and privilege in our

pre-posts, yet still very racial America. You could say all that I just call this show about race.

I'm Baratune Day Thurston, back from quite an extended absence,

and I'm here in the Panoply Studios in New York City

with my co-discussing, Raquel Soppeda.

Ola?

What up?

What up?

So nice to see you.

Nice to see you in the flesh, not in Slack, not in the text message.

Thank you.

I'm still getting used to you without glasses.

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