Welcome to Wheels Off, a show about the messy reality of the creative life.

I'm Rhett Miller.

That's when it got wheels off.

We shot it up and we ain't gonna stop.

Oh, I like you.

Like it or not.

That's when they got wheels off.

From the earliest days of our friendship, Greg Barrett has known how to make me laugh,

how to push my buttons. And I'm not alone. There is a fanatical group of like-minded fans of Greg Barron out there.

He's done a lot of stuff.

He's bubbled to the surface of the pop culture,

zeitgeist wave a number of times,

most notably when he wrote and scored a bestseller

with the book,

he's just not that into you with his co-author, Liz Tuchio.

That was a cultural phenomenon, but he's done a lot of stuff.

He's got a surf rock band called The Reigning Monarchs.

He's had a couple of TV shows, a number of comedy

specials, a decades-long career as a stand-up comic. And as you're about to find out,

during the course of our conversation, a burgeoning career as a writer of fiction. I'm a big fan

of Greg Barron. I feel like he's got a knack for telling it like it is

and for making it funny even if it's harsh, which I think is the reason he's just not that

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