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Hello and welcome to our national conversation about conversations about race,

the bi-weekly multiracial podcast where we discuss the ways we can't talk, don't talk,

would rather not talk, but intermittently, fitfully, embarrassingly do talk about culture, identity, politics, power, and privilege in our pre-post, yet still very racial America.

You could say all that, or you could just say about race.

It's much shorter.

I'm Tanner Colby, and joining me from the Panoply Studios in New York are my regular co-discussant, Raquel Sapeda.

Hello, Raquel. Shalom. And Jameel Smith,

senior editor at New Republic, who writes and edits pieces on race, gender, law enforcement, and sports,

and is also the host of TNR's podcast, Intersection, a show about identity and what brings us together.

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