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And so, yeah, when you've been beating up on Buckeyes as much as Michigan has,

you start to form a certain opinion of what toughness is as it relates to Ohio State.

I think our good friend, our old buddy, our old pal, J.K. McCarthy, could put it into words. Ira, why don't you take it away? So, yes, Sam, yesterday apparently, I think it was from practice. I'm not even sure what the play was because I haven't seen the play. But apparently Donovan Jackson, the offensive lineman formerly of Ohio State, playing with Minnesota, had a great block on a screen pass to, I'm assuming it's Aaron Jones.

You can hear from the question you can hear the, I think it was a screen past Aaron Jones.

And he was, he being JJ, was asked about it.

In his media availability yesterday, he was asked about Donovan Jackson's block.

Us Michigan guys, we get a little skeptical of the, you know, kind of mentality and the tough

guyness of Ohio State.

But he absolutely proved it, you know, it's a sight to see.

And I just love how fired up he got after that, too.

He's going to be a great player.

You know, going to be a great player. You can take the kid out of Michigan.

You can't take the Michigan out of the kid.

Yeah, so basically, I mean, you can have toughness and go to Ohio State, but you don't get it from Ohio State.

You don't gain toughness from Ohio State.

You might be able to maintain it, but you don't gain it.

Or they don't pull it out of you?

Right.

You don't get it from being a Buckeye.

Essentially is what you can infer from that.

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