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Hello, and welcome to our national conversation about conversations about race. The bi-weekly multiracial podcast where we discuss the ways we can't talk, don't talk,

would rather not talk, but intermittently, fitfully, embarrassingly do talk about culture, identity,

politics, power, and privilege in our pre-posted,

yet still very racial America. You could say all that, or you could just call the show about race.

I'm Raquel Sepeda, author of Bird of Paradise, How I Became Latina. And joining me here in the

Pampley Studios in New York City are my co-host. Bar Baratunday Thurston, author of How to Be Black.

What up, Baratunday?

What up?

And Tanner Colby, author of Some of My Best Friends Are Black, The Strange Story of Integration in America.

Hello, Raquel.

Shalom.

Shalom.

Okay.

Today we'll discuss this week's cover story from New York Magazine.

Can racism be stopped in the third grade? A program at the prestigious

Philston Lower School has asked parents to categorize their elementary school age children by race so they can be sorted out into racial affinity groups for classroom discussions. Some parents are thrilled. Other parents weren't feeling it. Next up, we'll talk about

Boston University professor Saida Grundy. The African American scholar talked about race on Twitter.

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