Welcome to the Feeling Good podcast.

I'm your host, Fabrice Nye, and joining me here in the Myrieta Studios is the creator of the team model, Dr. David Burns.

Hi, David. Hi, Fab February. Good to see you.

Good to see you again. Yeah. So today we're moving to the third letter in team, T-E-A-M, the letter A, which stands for?

Agenda setting, or we've changed it a little bit recently to call it paradoxical agenda setting

to give a distinction between other forms of therapy that think they're doing agenda

setting what we're talking about is really radically different yeah and also you may need to

define this a little bit because when I first heard the term agenda setting,

I thought it was about, well, let's talk about what we're going to do during this session,

but it's a little bit different than that. Can you explain?

Well, it's really the advanced calculus of psychotherapy. It's the most magical and powerful tool on all of psychotherapy. and what it has to do with is bringing the patient's subconscious resistance

to conscious awareness in a gentle, loving, compassionate, fun way, actually,

and then melting the patient's resistance away

with a variety of newly developed pretty powerful

techniques.

So what you call agenda setting is really concerned with the resistance aspect to things.

Absolutely.

And the motivation.

Absolutely.

And how it links in with my earlier work helping to develop cognitive therapy, the whole

emphasis there was, you know, as we talked about in prior podcasts, that our thoughts

create all of our feelings, positive and negative.

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