Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast. I am your host, Fabrice Nye. And joining me here in the Murrieta Studios is the creator of the team model, Dr. David Burns.. Hi David. Hi, Fabrice. Dr. David

Burns has been a pioneer in the development of cognitive therapy, and he is the creator of the

new team therapy. He is the author of Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the

United States, and has been translated into over 20 languages.

He is an emeritus adjunct clinical professor of psychiatry at the Stanford University School

of Medicine. So, David, today is part two of our podcast on the agenda setting, A equals agenda setting part.

And last time we talked about, you know, what is resistance, the eight kinds of resistance.

And I'm sure that people are kind of eager to understand.

So now that we know what resistance is, what do we do about it?

So we're going to talk about, you know, the actual paradoxical agenda setting and how do we do this today, right?

Absolutely.

And it's, to me, a phenomenally exciting theme because if you learn how to melt away the patient's resistance or the client's resistance,

whatever word you want to use, it opens up the door for some, in many cases,

phenomenally high-speed recovery. I just got back from Canada's while we've had a little

hiatus in recording here.

We skipped last week.

And I did two four-day intensives on team therapy.

And as part of it, I did a live demonstration at each workshop and had volunteers who'd had very severe feelings of depression.

One, for women for 40 years.

Wow.

And in both of the demonstrations, there was a total elimination of these individuals' symptoms.

Both were about two-hour demonstrations.

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