On this episode, we cover the Joe Rogan Experience 2113 with guest Chris Rufo.

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Today, we're going to be covering Joe's March 24 interview

with Christopher Rufo.

So how did Joe introduce Chris in the show notes?

Yeah, according to the show notes,

Christopher F. Rufo is a writer, filmmaker, activist,

and senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.

He's also a contributing editor of City Journal,

a distinguished fellow of Hillsdale College,

and the founder of American Studio, a non-profit focused on the American experience.

Huh. Okay. Well, is there anything else we should know about?

Yeah, I think there is. I think there is. So despite what you can see in a lot of that particular description in the In your show notes,

Rufel is a conservative activist who is deeply connected to a lot of very large and very well-funded right-wing influence organizations, essentially.

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