On this episode, we cover the Joe Rogan Experience 1125 with guest Candice Owens.

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media influence. I'm Cecil Cicerold, joined by Michael Marshall. Today, we're going to be covering

Joe's May 2018 interview with Candice Owens. So, Marsh, how did Joe introduce Candice in the show notes?

So according to the show notes, Candice Owens is the Communication Director for Turning

Point USA, which is an American conservative nonprofit organization whose state admission

is to educate students about true free market values.

Huh. Well, is there anything else we should know about Candice Owens?

Yeah, I think so.

So we're actually going to hear a lot about Candice Owens' backstory in this show.

But she does miss from all of that, the fact that in 2015, she was running a website called

Degree 180, where she had a column that expressed liberal outrage talking points about conservatives before she did her own 180 to become an outspoken and celebrated conservative.

And that was in her mid-20s. So she was actually sort of sharing the kind of leftist outrage before she switched to right-wing stuff.

Her rise to the level of prominence that she was at was incredibly quick.

It happened incredibly fast.

So, yeah, in 2015, she's running this sort of liberal website.

By late 2017, she was producing pro-Trump commentary and criticizing notions of structural racism,

systemic inequality, and identity politics, which were all positions that she'd been

pushing on her own website two years earlier. So a complete vault fascia. In September 2017,

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