You know, it's freaking hard.

Dealing with that, and when you're 17 years old, having all that stress, having no outlet,

feeling abandoned.

You know, I am one of the guys who got fired and decided to open my own shop.

Tell us how to firing with him.

Oh, firing?

Well, my wife at the time wasn't happy.

But I am very unconventional.

My path of how I got here is in your typical story of the guy who went through high school,

got into college, you know, worked hard in college, and got an internship the whole nine

yards.

My whole plan to me is like the 10 year if you're lucky, your successful plan, and you

don't have that kind of plan.

Unfortunately, that's the system now.

Honestly, I kind of fell into this unconventional path just due to like personal things that

were going on in my life with my family and, you know, having to be out on my own and

figure it out for myself and leverage my own kind of like capacity of like, how am I going

to make him into this world with just my two hands in my brain?

You know, it makes you think a little differently when you realize like you have to take a different

path.

And in order for you to be successful, you have to think unconventionally around the

facts of like, okay, what's going to make me stand out?

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