Hey, it's Greg. We're going way back into the podcast archive with this one, all the way back to the year 2016.

And even though this conversation is almost four years old, the concepts Chris shares in it are timeless.

So if you're thinking about starting up your own

creative business or rethinking the one you already have, then do not sleep on this

one. We'll have more new episodes to share with you in a couple of weeks, but in the

meantime learn how to run a creative business and enjoy our conversation with Frank She. I'm going to do.

Do you know?

And,

and do you know and do you

do you A former intern of mine and a motion graphics designer and 3D artist, Frank She, stopped by the studio.

He had a lot of questions about how to start and run a design business.

And at first I was thinking, some people might like this episode, but then now I look back and it's close to having 36,000 views.

So I think we touched on some business principles about how to estimate, how to price jobs, and I think it resonated with our audience.

So without further ado, here's our conversation about how to start and run a design business with Frank She.

So let's give everybody a little context about what you're doing, Frank.

Talk to me.

So I've been giving this unique opportunity to have a partnership with a Chinese production company

and they have a lot of clients under their belt that's looking for high quality

studio production.

And my partner has come to me because a lot of international brands are

using China as their main point of sales and they wanted to keep that kind of production domestic.

And what's your background?

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