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so I've become convinced after particularly after long talks with Congressman Mike Galger that

It is baked into the cake that

America is going to become more hawkish towards China in the next five ten years two years five minutes whatever

And so the question isn't whether or not we're going to be hawkish, but whether we're going to be smart or dumb about it and

our guest today I

heard speak at an AI off the record event in Jackson Hole and she kind of blew everybody away with

Everything that she knows about China and she's my colleague at the American Enterprise Institute Orianna Mastro Orianna

Thank you so much for coming. Yeah, thank you for having me

So we you have to do some sort of full disclosure are you still also like an Air Force person who knows all sorts of cool stuff?

You're not allowed to tell us about

I am I

Am in the process of switching jobs from being a China analyst at the Pentagon to moving into plans at Indo-Paycom in Hawaii

So it's very exciting

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