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A bit of a different thing going on this week.

You've been immature and you've lied.

And now you're trying to turn it on me and manipulate me and gaslight me.

I was trying to manipulate you.

Diana, you would be chucking their clothes out of the window.

I know, I'd be like, are you joking?

I don't know.

I guess you'd have to ask.

Someone that has sex.

Someone that has sex.

And remember, it's just between us.

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Fascinating historical conversations from BBC History Magazine and BBC History Revealed.

Known as the Lady of the Mercians and Mother of the English. Ethelfled was a successful and celebrated ruler of

the Mercian peoples in the early 10th century, who enjoyed a period of political prosperity.

Emily Briffitt spoke to Rebecca Hardy, an early medievalist and editor of an upcoming collection

of essays on Ethel Fled, to uncover what this fascinating figure can tell us about contemporary definitions of power and the complicated patchwork of early medieval kingdoms.

Today we're going to be diving into the life and legacy of Ethel Fled, who was known as the Lady of the Merseans, but also the mother of the English.

So tell me, how did you first become interested in Ethelflad?

Well, in 2018, we saw celebrations of 1100 years following the death of Athelflad across the country.

And there were notable events at Tamworth and Gloucester where Athelflad had died and was

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