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Skullduggery

Zucked

Skullduggery

Michael Isikoff, Daniel Klaidman, Victoria Bassetti

Politics, White House, News Commentary, Government, Senate, Podcasts, President, House Of Representatives, News, Victoria Bassetti, Supreme Court, Michael Isikoff, Foreign Policy, Scandels, Yahoo News, Voting, Elections, Skullduggery, Daniel Klaidman

4.02K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2019

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Skullduggery, co-hosts Michael Isikoff and Dan Klaidman welcome former Legal Adviser to the State Department, Harold Koh, to discuss his recently published "Reader's Guide for the 25th Amendment" and its possible application to the current President. Then, early investor in Facebook and Managing Director of Elevation Partners, Roger McNamee, joins the show to discuss the fallout from the social media giant which he details in great depth throughout the course of his new book, Zucked.

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0:00.0

Roger McNamee was one of the early big investors in Facebook, a Silicon Valley venture capitalist

0:07.0

who became a trusted advisor to founder Mark Zuckerberg.

0:11.0

But in October 2016, he was disillusioned and even more alarmed.

0:16.8

McNamee had come across signs that Facebook, America's largest social media platform with

0:21.1

1.7 billion users was being manipulated by malicious actors for political purposes, who

0:27.7

were spreading phony news stories filled with conspiracy theories that inflamed voters.

0:33.3

Even worse, McNamee saw indications that Facebook tools were being abused by outside parties,

0:39.1

collecting data and spying on targeted groups, and that its facial recognition software

0:44.7

was being used to identify people who had never given permission.

0:49.1

McNamee laid all this out in a searing paper he sent to Zuckerberg and chief operating

0:53.7

officer Charles Sandberg.

0:55.8

There more than a decade of involvement with the company McNamee wrote,

0:59.0

Now I am disappointed, I am embarrassed, I am ashamed.

1:03.3

Facebook has done some things that are truly horrible and I can no longer excuse its

1:08.3

behavior.

1:09.3

Zuckerberg and Sandberg politely but firmly brushed McNamee off and referred him to a

1:14.6

top executive who insisted his concerns were overblown.

1:18.2

But the day after the 2016 election, McNamee hit the roof and lashed out at that executive

1:25.0

over what he was convinced had happened.

1:27.4

The Russians used Facebook to tip the election he shouted.

1:31.5

McNamee lays out his story in his new book, Zucked, waking up to the Facebook catastrophe.

1:36.3

We'll talk to him as well as a Yale Law School professor who's trying to educate the country

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