Hi, guys. Welcome.

It's Deconversion Therapy, the podcast.

This is Bonnie.

It's us.

And it's Karen.

We're not dead. We feel dead. We're not. We're still here.

I said we did. Yeah. She just has to up me. Yeah. We're here. We're a lot.

Well, wait. I have one other thing to tell you guys. And Karen, I knew you knew a little bit about this, but my dog is a Havonese and her best friend is this little, like, Doxon mix.

And they're both exactly the same little fat torso size.

And they were the biggest players and everything.

And when we lived in New York, she would come stay with me and they would lay next to each other.

And they haven't seen each other in 11 years. And her mom brought her down for a visit. And I was like, oh, my God, this is going to be the cutest thing in the whole world. She's going to walk in the door. They're going to be like, oh, my God, my best friend. And she walked in like, she was smoking a cigarette. She's like, hey, what's up?

Like, did not pay off at all. And as she walked in, like, she was smoking a cigarette. She's like, hey, what's up?

Like, did not pay off at all.

And I'm like, Addie?

And Martha's like, let's play, let's play.

But it was sweet nonetheless.

Did they warm up to each other?

They, yeah, they weren't not warm to each other. It just wasn't the raucous, you know.

He wanted when that guy saw the lion.

Remember, he grew up with a lion in Africa and then he went back to Africa and the lion saw him

and came and like hugged him. You ever seen that? Did he kill him? No. He was very affectionate. Oh, this is real? I thought this was like some parable. This is real. I thought this was a Bible parable. It's like, yeah, no. I don't know what the lesson was going to be. And his name was Daniel. Really? No. Yeah, yeah. It was like out of the 80s or 90s, some video. Okay. We would have seen it on beta, I'm sure, and had to rewind it. Yeah. So anyway, so that was sweet. Do you say fur babies? No.

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