Hello everyone and welcome to talk nerdy. Today is Monday, November 15th,

2021 and I'm the host of the show Kara Santa Maria. And before we dive into this

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All right, so let's talk about this week's show.

So I have the opportunity to sit down with Dr. Arrick Kirshinbaum.

He's a zoologist and a lecturer and fellow at Gerten College, University of Cambridge

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