Q&A

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with Sarah Isger, this is David French and we have a very special key guest today, somebody instrumental in headline making news last week. This is the kind of key guest you can expect from us in the coming weeks and months.

Now if you are unfortunate, he was very difficult to get today. I mean it's two days before Christmas, this was tough.

Well we have the best bookers, we have the best bookers, key connections. So you've heard if you're unfortunate enough to listen to pod save America, which I confess have listened to quite a few episodes of pod save America. They have this the saying friend of the pod. They'll introduce somebody and they'll say friend of the pod.

So this is spouse of the pod, who is a guest. Scott Heller, attorney, Baker bots, former Texas solicitor general, graduate of the second greatest UT in the United States of America, the University of Texas law school.

The greatest UT as we all know is the University of Tennessee and Texas as we all know, you even have to explain what state you're talking about because no one like everyone listening is like what? Yeah, it's because it's because Texas.

Well, I I maintain that Texas and I'm accurate in this historically and we could probably do a whole pod about this that Texas is.

About the Polk, about the president Polk. Oh so much more than that. So Texas is Tennessee's first and only colony. So I think what was it 13% of the cabattons who died at the Alamo were Tennessee and David Crockett, Tennessee and you had Sam Houston, former governor of Tennessee, the author of the Texas Declaration of Independence, Tennessee and James K Polk who brings it into the United States, Tennessee and I mean it really is a state that is.

Imprinted with the spirit of Tennessee. It is so Tennessee is most famous for Texas. No, I mean that's like number 100 on our list, but it that's why it's trivia. I think so. Yeah, okay. Yeah. So anyway, I just briefly introduced Scott anything else you want to.

Grills are really good steak. Nice. He takes out the trash on the regular. I don't even have to ask it's wonderful. No, so Scott is actually from Wisconsin, little known fact he is not a born Texas, but as we have the bumper sticker.

I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as fast as I could. That is Scott Keller.

He got a huge money and I football game tonight. Packers and Vikings. He's still a Packers fan. Sorry. Oh, I can hear that Wisconsin accent right there.

Just get him started on cheese. I mean, the boy near cheese and he goes. He clerked for Justice Kennedy and was the first chief counsel to Senator Ted Cruz, correct?

And and then he was solicitor general and he had you've done 11 Supreme Court cases.

But outstanding brings you what brings you to the pod today is you were the original draft or how do you want to describe your role in in this Obama care case?

I don't want to put words in your mouth.

So the affordable care at case that we're about to talk about was led by the state of Texas and the state of Wisconsin in their attorneys general.

And so I was there is the attorney general's office and you time that that was played to were you also Wisconsin. Did you represent?

No, no, my good friend, the former Wisconsin solicitor general, Misha Saitland was solicitor general Wisconsin. That's corrupt bargain.

Well, Scott, so what so what we're going to talk about there before broad topics because we're going to we're going to track the main controversies in the Obama care case.

And this is this was a case filed very interesting legal theory after the this was filed after Congress removed the tax penalty from the individual mandate correct. It was it was not a pending case before then.

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