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🗓️ 16 September 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Daniel and Kelly talk about the science behind the "zombie ants".
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:11.8 | The fungus known as Ophiocorticeps may be the most famous fungus in pop culture right now. |
| 0:18.4 | I know, it's a low bar, but still, it's pretty cool. |
| 0:20.9 | The girl with all the gifts, the Last of Us, and a host of other books, movies, and video games |
| 0:27.6 | feature this behavior-manipulating fungal pathogen. |
| 0:31.5 | But what does it really do? |
| 0:33.2 | How do the zombie ants behave? |
| 0:36.3 | And what do we know about how the fungus hijacks ant behavior? |
| 0:39.9 | And yes, at the end of the episode, I'll speculate on whether ophiocorticeps could jump from ants to humans, hijacking our behavior along the way. |
| 0:48.4 | Welcome to Daniel and Kelly's Manipulated Universe. |
| 0:51.1 | Music manipulated universe. |
| 1:05.3 | Hi, I'm Daniel. |
| 1:06.6 | I'm a particle physicist, |
| 1:09.1 | and I like to think of myself as a fun guy. |
| 1:11.8 | You know, Daniel, you have made that joke before. |
| 1:13.4 | It's too good. |
| 1:14.3 | It is. |
| 1:14.9 | It is good. |
| 1:15.4 | It's good. |
| 1:18.5 | I'm Kelly Weiner-Smith, and I'm a fun gal. |
| 1:20.6 | There we go. |
| 1:27.3 | And today we're talking about how funguses make us friends or make us more fun. |
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