Hello, I'm Mark Chapman. Welcome to the Business of Sport Pod on The Athletic. Each week, we're taking behind the curtain into the world of football business and other sports across the globe. As ever, with us today, the Athletics Football News reporter

Matt Slater. And we're going to talk about football players and their image rights mainly

on this pod, including Gareth Bail and Zlatan Ibrahimovic, because several of them, those two

included, are planning to object to use of their likenesses on FIFA 21.

And to help us explore the whole issue of image rights, we have Tom Horton, a barrister at Three Hare Court,

who also finds time to run the Twitter account, the football law.

And if you go to that, there's a brilliant thread on the issue of footballers and their image rights in reaction to this story.

First of all, Matt, before we bring in Tom's expertise, what's going on with Bail and Ibrahimovic in particular?

Well, look, anyone under the age of 40 will not need me to explain what FIFA is.

It's not the boring collection of Blazers. Hang on, I'm over 40 and I... Do you get it? I get it. I play it every now and there. I play against my 17-year-old and then I have the strong. Can you actually play it though? No, no, no. I just use Wright 2 and hope I have lots of fast players. That's all I do.

You better than me.

Anyhow, I was just setting up for the over 40s. Back to the story.

Fair enough. Maybe it's just me then. I'm just hopeless of this stuff.

But I am aware of the phenomenon that is FIFA.

28th edition, been going since the 90s, massive money spinner for EA games.

You know, people have told me that it's helped basically kind of relaunch soccer in North America

as soon as he got into the dressing rooms there and kind of NFL athletes for major league

baseball players were playing it.

And that sort of, so it's just a cultural phenomenon.

Huge, huge game.

Obvious Christmas present, the youngsters.

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