Ziwe is a Delight

So True with Caleb Hearon

Headgum

Society & Culture, Comedy Interviews, Comedy

4.9 • 975 Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Welcome! This week’s guest is the iconic Ziwe! Ziwe and Caleb talk dating in New York City, Colbert getting cancelled, a special encounter with the TSA, comments, and much more!

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0:00.0	This is a headgum podcast.
0:04.8	To be a true individual, I'm not claiming that I am one.
0:07.8	I just think that we're losing that like the sense of like the weirdos and the freaks and the, you know, I think it's kind of getting like beaten out of the broader culture.
0:16.8	It's literally the book Divergent, which I haven't read.
0:19.5	Nor have I.
0:21.3	So let's talk about it.
0:27.7	Do you have the fear that I have about me doing your show again that's like maybe we had lightning in a bottle and it won't hit?
0:34.1	No, not for you.
0:35.1	Like that I won't show up the way that I need to for the second one. I think there are people who I would not talk to again, but you are not one of those people. It's like Adam Pally, right? Adam Pally is someone who can, whatever he delivers, it's new and weird and funny. You are the same way. Yeah. Yeah. I love Adam. I love Adam. I love Adam. He's really so sweet.
0:55.0	He's really funny.
0:55.7	You're really funny.
0:56.3	You like him.
0:56.6	You remind me of him.
0:57.3	He really,
0:57.7	one time we were at a party at,
0:59.1	I don't know,
0:59.6	it's like Chateau Marmon or something.
1:00.9	Okay.
1:01.3	Some fancy place that I have been twice and shouldn't have been in the first place.
0:52.1	And he was like,
0:53.2	he was like,
0:54.1	hey man,
	...

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