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Hello, and welcome to Coffee House Shots the spectators, sometimes more than daily politics podcast. I'm Oscar Remenson and I'm joined today by James Heel for an emergency podcast

because Zia Yusuf has resigned as chairman of Reform UK after saying,

I no longer believe working to get reform government elected is a good use of my time.

Pretty brutal stuff. James, can you start by taking us through the circumstances that have led to

this decision? Well, I think it's fair to say there have always been some tensions at the top of the Reform Party that is a nature, partly of having quite a dynamic start-up, quite eclectic

colleagues involved in that. But really, the short-term trigger for what's this happened, I think,

is partly the row that's broken out over PMQs on Wednesday, which Sarah Pochin, the newest MP of the party, stood up and asked

the Prime Minister if he would ban the burker. Sir Yusuf then took to X, and he said that this was not

reform party policy, and a spokesman put out of a comment confirming that, then today he suggested

it was pretty dumb for a MP to suggest a policy, which was not

the official party line. Then this afternoon, Christian Calgary, the Express reported that

Mr. Yusuf had been sidelined with Aaron Lobo, a long-time member of Nigel Farage's inner circle,

being promoted as a result of that. And less than 19 minutes after that, Zia Yous have resigned.

The tone of his message would suggest a man who is done with working 16 hours a day in politics,

who feels he's invested a huge amount in the political project of Reform UK.

And it's worth reflecting Nigel Farage's reaction to all this,

which he said he was genuinely sorry about Yusuf's departure. It is worth remembering that

just last week at the press conference, which Farage announced that reform would commit to

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