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Welcome back to the Epic Gardening Podcast everyone. Today we have a really

interesting week. It's a bit of a left turn but I think as we listen to this

week's worth of episodes you'll see that there's so many things

that you can tie in to your garden. We have Mandy McKay. She is the director of

sustainability at Sierra Nevada, the Beer Company, the Brewing Company, where she

leads all sorts of awesome initiatives to reduce

waste carbon emissions capture rain save water save energy all sorts of incredible things

that I think if we look at it at a scale like Sierra Nevada, which Mandy I think you'll tell us in a second how large scale that brewery is,

we can take some of those nuggets and bring it back down to our homes and of course our gardens. So Mandy

thanks so much for doing this. This is really cool. Oh absolutely I'm

thrilled. Thank you for having me. Yeah of course I was telling you before we

we started that I grew up going to Chico California every year as part of a summer vacation

and Sierra Nevada was always around in the house of my great uncle

but obviously I'm you know five to 18 years old so I'm not I'm not

zipping it but later on when I did go to Chico after I was 21 I toured the

brewery and this was before Epic gardening and really it blew my mind at the level of

sustainability and thought that went into running a brewery at that scale.

Yeah I think you know I've been with the company for a little over a decade and it's really great to be part of, you know, we're, Sierra Nevada is certainly recognized as a leader in

craft we've been around for 40 years we're still privately owned by the same

guy who started the company in 1980 in Chico and so we're it's a very unique situation where family run and we're

really fortunate to be owned and operated by him and his family and you know these

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