Zero Permits, High Net: Running Facebook Ads for $10K Blue-Collar Paydays
Wealthy Way
Ryan Pineda
4.9 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 11 June 2026
⏱️ 14 minutes
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Summary
Is running a localized roofing business more profitable than traditional real estate wholesaling? In this segment, Ivan details his experience launching a zero-permit roofing company in North Carolina, scaling strictly through automated Facebook lead generation and subcontracted labor. The hosts explore the inner workings of construction margins, supplier lines of credit, and the terrifying legal realities of contractor liability when a site goes wrong. Ivan reveals his strategic framework for building an automated, low-human-intervention service business model and using low-ticket gutter maintenance to capture high-margin roof replacements.
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| 0:00.0 | Before we get to that bill, like tell me about the roofing company. |
| 0:02.7 | Yeah. |
| 0:02.8 | Like what happened? |
| 0:03.5 | So I want to know. Were you doing this unpermitted? So we don't need permits in North Carolina. We don't need permits technically unless the roof is. Oh, you don't need permits. No. Wow. Yeah. You don't need permits unless the, the, the cost is above $40,000. Oh, wow. which most roofs are not going to be. |
| 0:23.9 | So we didn't need permits. So I was basically running a sales and marketing operation and then I would subcontract the work. One of the things that kind of like, I don't know if I told you, but one of those subcontractors flooded one of my clients' homes, and we're actually |
| 0:37.5 | going through that process right now. And funny enough, I reached out to Ryan. I'm like, dude, I know you've gone through a bunch of lawsuits in your life. I'm like, what that? I'm like, panicking and freaking out. And I'm like, dude, what the heck do I do? He's like, first of all, relax. It's going to take forever for this to actually play out and all that. So he gave me a lot of |
| 0:55.4 | comfort that I needed in that moment. Nice. That was first of all, relax. It's going to take forever for this to actually play out and all that. |
| 0:54.4 | So he gave me a lot of comfort that I needed in that moment. Nice. That was one of those things. I mean, do I really want to go through that, like liability of putting your market? Oh, bro, you're in the construction game. Yeah. It's a lawsuit city. Exactly. Like, I don't know that I want to be in that. But the money's good. Like how was the money like |
| 1:09.3 | I can deal with lost suit. |
| 1:11.5 | Yeah, I was doing it small suit. |
| 1:13.5 | Yeah, I was the money? Like, tell me about the deal. Yeah. Right. Like, I can deal with lost. |
| 1:11.5 | Yeah. |
| 1:12.3 | A small suit. Yeah. I was just a small suit. Yeah. It was the only way I could compete in that market. And I think when you're first starting and roofing personally is that you have to compete originally with price because you, you haven't made a name for yourself. if you're starting from scratch like the perfect way that i was trying to do it that i just didn't |
| 1:30.3 | get around to is just buy another roofing company from an older person trying to try. Brian is thinking of to us. Yeah, I think that's the best way because you can leverage their Google reviews and you can leverage all these things and you're not a brand new kid on the block and you don't have to prove yourself, you can still have a decent price. But for me, I just started it from scratch because I couldn't |
| 1:49.1 | find another, you know, roofing company that was willing to sell. But we were doing, even though |
| 1:54.1 | we were low-balling our prices, mostly because I wanted to just get the reps in, we were making |
| 2:00.7 | six to ten grand a roof. |
| 2:03.8 | Matt? |
| 2:04.4 | Yeah, net. |
| 2:05.5 | After paying everything, yeah. |
| 2:06.8 | And then I got lines of credit with ABC, which is the supplier for the shingles. |
| 2:13.0 | And I got invited to conventions. |
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