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The Politics Guys

Zelenskyy v Trump, House Budget Bill, Five Things You Accomplished

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.5772 Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Trey and Ken open the episode with the breaking chaos between President Zelenskyy, President Trump, and Vice-President Vance. Trey opened the segment by stating that his assumption of a foreign policy difference between Putin and President Trump was flawed. The hosts agreed that the moment was a turning point in the break between the U.S. and Europe.  Next, they moved to the House's budget bill. Ken was surprised that only Representative Massie defected. Trey believes Democrats will end up taking the blame if they shut the government down. Ken agrees historically but believes some specifics make Democrats' strategy different in this budget cycle.  They close with a look at DOGE and Musk's demand that all federal employees report the five things they did in the last week. Ken takes a deep legal look at worker protection, and Trey argues that it gives true efforts to reign in government a bad name. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X  Mike’s Substack: What Fresh Hell is This? Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. The Politics Guys is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Atheists, agnostics, long-haired, weirdos, short-haired widows, van, or...

0:35.6

Love the government, hug the government. Love the government.

0:38.4

The government.

0:39.5

Love.

0:41.0

The government.

0:42.1

Welcome to the politics, guys.

0:43.8

A place for bipartisan rational and civil debate on American politics and policy.

0:47.8

I'm Trey Orndorf, a political scientist at Oklahoma Christian University.

0:51.5

And I'm joined by Ken Kacken, a professor of law at Chase Law School.

0:56.4

Ken, welcome once again to the politics guys. It is great to be back. It is always fun getting

1:02.5

to do this with you. And I tell you, always the biggest things happen when we're doing the show.

1:11.0

Maybe we should do it less because these big things that happen aren't always so good.

1:14.4

That's what it is, right?

1:15.7

We're causing the chaos that exists.

1:19.3

Yeah.

1:20.3

Oh, oh, anyway.

1:21.8

Well, because weirdly, we got a little bit delayed today in recording the show, but I'm kind of glad that we did

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