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Zelensky: Russia has already started a Third World War

Newshour

BBC

Daily News, News

4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In a BBC interview, the Ukrainian president. Volodymyr Zelensky, has accused President Putin of trying to impose a different way of life on the world, warning that the Russian leader would "not stop" at Ukraine.

Also on the programme: the International Criminal Court has opened hearings to decide if the former Philippine president, Rodrigo Duterte, should face trial for crimes against humanity; and we speak to Wagner Moura, star of the Oscar-nominated Brazilian film The Secret Agent.

(Photo: Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky speaks during the 62nd Munich Security Conference (MSC) at the hotel 'Bayerischer Hof', in Munich, Germany. Credit: Ronald Wittek/EPA/Shutterstock.)

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts.

0:09.2

Hello and welcome to NewsHour from the BBC World Service.

0:13.0

We're coming to you live from London.

0:14.7

I'm Leila Nathu.

0:16.0

In just over 10 minutes' time, we will speak to Wagner, star of The Secret Agent, which has been nominated

0:22.0

for four Oscars. He tells me why he was drawn to his character, a man caught up in the turmoil

0:27.4

of 1970s Brazil. For me, he is just a man who's trying to stick with the values that he has

0:33.9

in a moment when everything around him says the opposite.

0:40.1

And I love this about this character.

0:41.6

He's not a freedom fighter.

0:42.7

He's not a revolutionary.

0:44.7

He doesn't want to overthrow the government.

0:47.0

He's just a man who wants to be himself.

0:52.8

But first on the program, Ukrainians are looking ahead to a grim milestone.

0:56.9

Tomorrow marks four years since Russia mounted its full-scale invasion of their country. Russian attacks show no sign of abating, and Ukraine continues to count

1:03.2

its casualties. Kiev accuses Moscow of merely going through the motions of peace talks, with

1:08.8

demands for Ukraine to cede further territory,

1:11.5

proving a roadblock to a ceasefire. Meanwhile, President Trump has stopped almost all U.S.

1:16.5

military shipments to Ukraine, with European nations scrambling to step in. In this context,

1:22.5

President Zelensky's defiance is remarkable. He's told the BBC that it's only a matter of time before Ukraine

1:29.3

retakes the land seized by Russia over the last four years of war and that he's convinced

1:35.2

Ukraine can ultimately win the war. He's been speaking to our international editor, Jeremy Bowen,

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