Sell it. Oh, Zellet. Today I'm Zellet. I've got Katie J Mo who is a mate of mine because I'm lucky and she wanted me to mention that she used to want to be a nun.

Oh yeah.

And if you haven't seen her excellent Instagram at Katie Jmo get on that.

Hello, Katie. Hi, Jeff.

What, which cult are we talking about today?

Tell me your stupid name.

Tell me your stupid name.

stupid name. Today we're lucky we're talking about realism.

I love I love this cult. Yeah and I can't I can't say that about many because it's kind of a good one as in doing not doing bad things. Yeah all the other ones are a bit naughty and they'll bum you out.

Realism is a laugh a minute.

And I partly, it's just, it's chuckles from start to finish. But I like, there's many puns in the name as well because like

realism is a bit like realism. Yeah. But also they are aliens. Yeah. And they believe in aliens. Yeah, I like that. So it's really hard to talk about them without

rapping. I like that they've come up with this this name and I like that the later

Claude he's fronch

fronch fk a clode

his name is now

rail or rile yeah yeah rile rail

and also do you think that's also referencing like Israel? Yes because Israel does come into it a lot.

Yeah and Jerusalem and stuff. Yeah I've got my theories on that as well.

Do you?

Well, let's, okay, we need to get into these then.

For starters, Claude, I keep wanting to say his name in a French accent so I'm going to

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