Tell it. Right, but I'm excited because I've got the fabulous Myth Warhurst talking to me about

cults today. How are you myth?

Hello Joe I'm excellent how are you going I'm excited.

Oh me too well excited to talk about horrible horrible shit.

Yeah that's true that's true for those who don't know what's wrong with you but

MIF is a broadcaster podcaster TV person and just general good egg. I challenge anyone to find someone that doesn't

think Miff is just awesome. Ha ha. You can you can probably ask a couple of my exes and I'm sure they'll have a very different viewpoint on that but you know

Okay well if you can just give me their numbers. I'll make sure you're telling the truth. This is also the first time I've recorded an

episode of Zellert not in the same room as the person. So I'm sorry I haven't been able to do you a cheese plate.

Oh look that's all right what you what you did do though which was just beautiful is in my

little email inbox one day all of a sudden there was a gift voucher for some booze and I thought

that's so sweet that's a really lovely idea but we're doing this a little bit

earlier than we probably thought we would be so we're

sans wine at the moment which could may or may not help or hinder the

podcast I'm not sure yes I haven't had a dry podcast yet haven't you no okay let's well let's test the waters the future is

dry because everybody's giving up the booze as you know as we get older so we can

be the guinea pigs for how to do a podcast dry. Oh God okay good good luck me no I know

I know which culture we talking about.

Tell me is stupid name tell me your stupid name.

your stupid name.

We are talking about Sinanin today.

Or do I say Sininon?

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