Zbig: the man who shaped the world
The Two Matts
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4.4 • 523 Ratings
🗓️ 6 May 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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The Matts are joined by acclaimed author and FT journalist Edward Luce to talk about his new book Zbig— the definitive biography of Zbigniew Brzezinski, Cold War strategist and key architect of U.S. foreign policy. More than just a biography, Zbig offers sharp insights into the nature of power and America’s role in the world. If you want to understand how global strategy is shaped, this episode is essential listening.
Zbig: The Life of Zbigniew Brzezinski, America's Cold War Prophet is out on May the 13th. Preorder here.
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| 1:06.8 | subscribers of the new European. We are delighted to be joined, fresh off the plane from Washington, |
| 1:12.2 | D.C., by Mr. Edward Luce, who is the F.T.'s chief US commentator. And Ed, the reason you're here |
| 1:19.6 | is to discuss your book on a figure, I'm guessing a lot of our listeners won't have heard of, but |
| 1:26.3 | really should have. And and hopefully in the course |
| 1:28.9 | of this conversation we'll get a deep understanding of why he's so relevant to our not only our |
| 1:34.6 | past but our current times and that man is zvigny f brisinski and your book is called zbig |
| 1:41.2 | zbig and uh most tellingly the subtitle is America's Cold War |
| 1:47.8 | Profit. Welcome. |
| 1:49.9 | Very nice to be here, a perfect way of getting off the plane. |
| 1:52.8 | Yes, indeed. |
| 1:54.1 | So, I mean, as Matt said, welcome, Ed, and it's interesting because, first of all, it's a fantastic book. Congratulations. And you could tell. I mean, it exudes scholarship and research. And the life and times of a figure this pig is quite an undertaking. And perhaps we can discuss that a bit. But I think possibly for our listeners, as Matt alluded there, there is a contrast with a figure like Henry |
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