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Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Zainab Salbi: Wielding Our Sword of Truth

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2018

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

Zainab Salbi is an author, humanitarian, and media commentator who founded the nonprofit organization Women for Women International when she was only 23 years old. With Sounds True, she has published the book Freedom Is an Inside Job: Owning Our Darkness and Our Light to Heal Ourselves and the World. In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Tami Simon and Zainab discuss what it means to be an agent of social change while also navigating the everyday journey of being human. They talk about why it's necessary to let go of what no longer works in our lives in order to embrace our most deeply held truths. As an Iraqi-American, Zainab speaks on engaging with people whose values oppose ours—especially those who currently oppose Muslim immigration to the United States. Finally, Zainab and Tami talk about the healing power of making amends and what "freedom" really means. (83 minutes) Tami's Takeaway Zainab teaches how we can befriend people who hold opposing views not through debate, but through embrace and a strong, open stance that is curious about the other person's underlying needs and emotions. I believe this skill—truly understanding people who disagree with us and feel "other"—is one of the most important skills we need to be peacemakers and bringers of love in all of our interactions.

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This program is brought to you by sounds true.com.

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At sounds true.com you can find hundreds of downloadable audio

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learning programs, plus books, music, videos, and online courses and events.

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At sounds true.com, we think of ourselves as a trusted partner on the spiritual journey,

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offering diverse, in-depth, and life-changing wisdom.

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Sounds True.com, many voices, one journey. You're listening to insights at the edge. Today my guest is Zainab Salbi.

0:44.1

Zainab is an Iraqi American humanitarian, entrepreneur, author, and media

0:51.5

commentator who has dedicated herself to women's rights and freedom.

0:57.4

At the age of 23, she founded Women for Women International, a grassroots humanitarian and development organization

1:06.4

dedicated to serving women survivors of war.

1:10.1

With sounds true, Zainab has written a new book called Freedom is an Inside Job,

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owning our darkness and our light to heal ourselves in the world.

1:22.6

In this episode of Insights at the Edge,

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Zainib and I spoke about what it means

1:28.8

to be a social change agent from, quote, the strengths of our spines instead of the breathlessness of our

1:37.7

chests. We talked about how to skillfully hold on to our values while engaging people whose values seem

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to oppose ours.

1:49.4

And Zainab spoke to this issue as a Muslim immigrant speaking to people who desperately fear Muslims

1:57.8

entering the country.

2:00.0

We talked about how our dreams never require us to self-sacrifice.

2:06.7

The power of making amends, and why we need to leave behind what no longer works in our lives in order to find and wield our own sort of truth.

2:20.0

Here's my conversation with the tremendously empowered and empowering Zain Absalby. Welcome everyone. It is my great delight to be here in the Sounds True Studio with

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